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Friday, August 14, 2009
Truss Staged
Lots of thinking....some scrounging for parts...and a little bit of action. Managed with little physical effort (and some moral support from Benita) to get the truss into position to be raised. Hmmmm....now what?
Time for an old fasioned barn raisin', updated for the twenty-first century. Chains, pulleys, levers, inclined planes, etc... Hey, do you know about how much that thing weighs? It ought to be easy to calculate. I think you said earlier that you figured it to be eighteen full pieces of rebar.
how about a singletree lift . I can't see the total heights, but you may have to add in a dead man weigh for an anchor and a simple double block and tackle?
Well, it can't weight that much since you been moving it around on your own as it is. I think I would be inclined to attach a keeper (sleave and pipe) to each outside corner on top of the conex boxes. The lift one side of the truss on top and behind a block. Then the other. Now, if it's to heavy consider a sleave and pipe on top and use your come-a-long. After you have it on top you can walk it back into position. Be careful and don't forget to start your video camera! Good luck!
John, I have a truck with a homemade lift that plugs into the bed. It has a hydralic ram to lift an arm (pipe). You may be able to extend the arm to get the height needed (you have a welder) Let me know if you need it and I will tell you how to get it. Rusty machap@cablelynx.com or 903 984 7278
Take a look at this...these peopel raised an extremely heavy wooden set of beams using a jack and some archaic technology: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=31136393&postID=5450022561441037226
Here is a photo of it in progress, they have alot of other photos of the process if you search through: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A9aNCAzgPOc/SOkw_00IN_I/AAAAAAAAA8M/YLnqOjSzo1U/s1600/CIMG0026.JPG
and http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A9aNCAzgPOc/SOkxAYZIzeI/AAAAAAAAA8U/EeOnD4sbrFY/s1600-h/CIMG0027.JPG
John, I love keeping up with your blog. Glad you're eye's on the mend. I was reading this morning wondering about how you were going to hoist the truss, and then I got an advertisement from a ladies boutique, which shall remain nameless. They have a newfangled over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder called the "biofit" and offer levels of lift. Clearly, I thought of you...
John, ya got some pretty good suggestions on get'n that heavy sucker up on da roof. Some I wouldn't touch with a sky hook for safety reasons. But, what ever method you choose, don't be mak'n no post from the hospital. Do be careful and think "safety".
hey JW Get um all made up and let's have that good ole fashon barn Rasin that "admin" was talkin about! Maybe somebody out ther has a good ole A-frame and Winch to bring to the party!
Jw, on a serious note, there are some things that you just shouldn't do by yourself. Be CAREFUL! It can be done, and I am sure you can figure a way, but don't chance it by yourself! Too many things could go wrong and mother nature is one of the big unknowns! A good gust of wind could be dangerous! You have friends near by, ask them!
Personally , if it were me, I would get them all built, THEN find someone with a crane or powered lift of some sort and have them lifted into place. Should be able to get them all up in one day.
Gonna cost you for the lifting, but much safer and faster.
Might cost you a bit, but HEY, safest way and get it done.
Benita is one healthy speciman of a Longhorn, little long in the tooth but experience is always better than youthful wannabes. Can't help you on the technical project, just keep up the good work.
What would Archimedes do?
ReplyDeletethat's exactly what Benita said....
ReplyDeleteNow you will know who your real friends are...
ReplyDeleteArchimedes would say "Screw it!"
ReplyDeleteTime for an old fasioned barn raisin', updated for the twenty-first century. Chains, pulleys, levers, inclined planes, etc...
ReplyDeleteHey, do you know about how much that thing weighs? It ought to be easy to calculate. I think you said earlier that you figured it to be eighteen full pieces of rebar.
how about a singletree lift . I can't see the total heights, but you may have to add in a dead man weigh for an anchor and a simple double block and tackle?
ReplyDeleteToo bad you can't get Benita to give you a hand.
ReplyDeleteWell, it can't weight that much since you been moving it around on your own as it is. I think I would be inclined to attach a keeper (sleave and pipe) to each outside corner on top of the conex boxes. The lift one side of the truss on top and behind a block. Then the other. Now, if it's to heavy consider a sleave and pipe on top and use your come-a-long. After you have it on top you can walk it back into position. Be careful and don't forget to start your video camera! Good luck!
ReplyDeleteJohn, I have a truck with a homemade lift that plugs into the bed. It has a hydralic ram to lift an arm (pipe). You may be able to extend the arm to get the height needed (you have a welder) Let me know if you need it and I will tell you how to get it. Rusty machap@cablelynx.com or 903 984 7278
ReplyDeleteTake a look at this...these peopel raised an extremely heavy wooden set of beams using a jack and some archaic technology: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=31136393&postID=5450022561441037226
ReplyDeleteHere is a photo of it in progress, they have alot of other photos of the process if you search through: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A9aNCAzgPOc/SOkw_00IN_I/AAAAAAAAA8M/YLnqOjSzo1U/s1600/CIMG0026.JPG
and http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A9aNCAzgPOc/SOkxAYZIzeI/AAAAAAAAA8U/EeOnD4sbrFY/s1600-h/CIMG0027.JPG
Goodluck
You know, it seems to me that a domesticated animal like you've got there would be an aweful lot more useful if you hooked up a harness to it.
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ReplyDeleteJohn, I love keeping up with your blog.
ReplyDeleteGlad you're eye's on the mend. I was reading this morning wondering about how you were going to hoist the truss, and then I got an advertisement from a ladies boutique, which shall remain nameless. They have a newfangled over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder called the "biofit" and offer levels of lift. Clearly, I thought of you...
Level 1: Subtle Lift
Level 2: Moderate Lift
Level 3: Dramatic Lift
Level 4: Extreme Lift
Level 5: Ultimate Lift
Cheers.
nothing more to do then just ol fashion up and at em.
ReplyDeletecalling in the support crew around the grub shack or just having ol benita do some feed earning?
John, ya got some pretty good suggestions on get'n that heavy sucker up on da roof. Some I wouldn't touch with a sky hook for safety reasons. But, what ever method you choose, don't be mak'n no post from the hospital. Do be careful and think "safety".
ReplyDeleteIs there someone out there with a back hoe close by? maybe tie the truss to the bucket and lift it up there.
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ReplyDeleteDon't forget the big picture, that you have a number of trusses to get up there and positioned, not just one.
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ReplyDeletehey JW
ReplyDeleteGet um all made up and let's have that good ole fashon barn Rasin that "admin" was talkin about! Maybe somebody out ther has a good ole A-frame and Winch to bring to the party!
Jw, on a serious note, there are some things that you just shouldn't do by yourself. Be CAREFUL! It can be done, and I am sure you can figure a way, but don't chance it by yourself! Too many things could go wrong and mother nature is one of the big unknowns! A good gust of wind could be dangerous! You have friends near by, ask them!
Personally , if it were me, I would get them all built, THEN find someone with a crane or powered lift of some sort and have them lifted into place. Should be able to get them all up in one day.
ReplyDeleteGonna cost you for the lifting, but much safer and faster.
Might cost you a bit, but HEY, safest way and get it done.
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ReplyDeleteReader "J" asked in a comment: Just curious.....all those posts that say "Comment deleted
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Does that mean they were deleted by the person who wrote it, or deleted by JW?
so lets try a little experiment...
Well, that answered that. Thanks!
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ReplyDeleteBenita is one healthy speciman of a Longhorn, little long in the tooth but experience is always better than youthful wannabes. Can't help you on the technical project, just keep up the good work.
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