Saturday, September 11, 2021

Pandemic Saturday

This article recently came out with the clickbait title "Questioning the catchphrase: Pandemic of the unvaccinated" - which most likely leads the idiots who are refusing the vaccine (without actually reading and thinking about what the article says) to think it means they aren't to blame after all for the surging pandemic.  The article's key points are as follows:  1. hospitalization rates among unvaccinated adults are 17 times higher than among those fully vaccinated.  2. the virus has reemerged in the southern United States primarily among unvaccinated people.  3.  unvaccinated people continue to account for the fast majority of those hospitalized.  

The reason the catchphrase is in question has little to do with whether or not it's true...it's about the message it sends and worrying about how the public will react to it.  "It is true that the unvaccinated are the biggest driver but we mustn't forget that the vaccinated are part of it as well...the pandemic clearly involves all people, not just the unvaccinated".  Anyone with any common sense is aware of that - but the fact remains that it is the unvaccinated that are the MAIN problem.  The article goes on to say "branding it a pandemic of the unvaccinated is "provocitave" and "stigmatizes the unvaccinated". 

The idiots who remain unvaccinated have an opposition toward Washington and there is concern that the more you stir the opposition, the more it convinces them to not give in. A poll in July found that 45% of adults who had not yet received the vaccine said they definitely would not get it.  2 in 3 unvaccinated adults said they had little to no confidence the shots are effective against mutations like the delta variant - although the data show vaccination dramatically reduces the risk of serious illness, hospitalization and death.

Bottom line:  Unvaccinated Americans are still the ones most at risk and still the main ones putting everyone at risk.  Quit following the misinformation and conspiracy bullshit you read on the internet, get over your "opposition to Washington", and if being told you are the main problem in this pandemic is provocitave and makes you feel stigmatized...then tough shit.

 

23 comments:

Russ Smith said...

Well said John. I'm starting to think that it's time to cut them off. For those over the age of 18 and eligible to receive the shot that haven't gotten themselves at least an appointment to receive the shot, should become ineligible to receive it. Insurance companies should be given the legal leeway to not cover the cost of covid treatment after the cutoff date for those who remain unvaccinated. Hospitals should have the legal leeway to refuse treatment for those who have not been vaccinated. Vaccinations should be provided in school for those eligible children who want the vaccine but whose parents refuse to allow it.

If it's a fake virus, then let them take their ivermectin and stay at home.

The "God will protect me" crowd really get me. I guess He'll protect them just like He protected all of the good Godly people I've known who died from cancer, ALS, Alzheimer's, etc... I guess He'll protect them Like He did Job. It's as if they think they can jump off a high tower and God's angels will bear them up, lest they dash thier foot against a stone. ... I don't guess they ever read the rest of that passage.

Unknown said...

So all those healthcare workers and police and fire unions and people with PhD's are all idiots? Ok, got it.

J J Power said...

You can be a healthcare worker, a member of a police force, a firefighter, even a president of a country or hold a PhD and still be not know everything about everything.
Anyone who doesn't get vaccinated is not just an idiot but a selfish idiot.
It is idiotic to put yourself at unnecessary risk and it is both idiotic and selfish to put other people at unnecessary risk.
It matters not what your job is or what your qualifications are, if you are behaving idiotically then you leave yourself open to being called an idiot.

DEL said...


It's a sad, sad day when your father dies because he got in the "retirement" how. Some of the workers lied about their vac status. Sue them? Sure.
They will never pay, they are paid minimum wage. How are they gonna pay?
Sue the company that owns or operates the home? Sure, but you will probably die before it gets past their lawyers.
So this is the new retirement? The Oldman was not told this when he checked in.

Unknown said...

JJ, or maybe those people know something you dont or maybe they just have a different opinion. All this name calling and attempted shaming and calling for parental rights to be overridden by the state and ending body autonomy is sad and frankly a little tyrannical.

J J Power said...

Maybe...... or maybe they don't. Meanwhile, people continue to die in their thousands.
One proposed solution is for people to get vaccinated, twice.
Where the take up of the vaccine is higher, deaths seem to be lower.
It would be interesting to hear other proposed solutions.

Unknown said...

People can get vaccinated as many times as they want or not. But denying people healthcare or overriding parental right is insanity and tyrannical and it amazes me how people have turned on each other.

Unknown said...

I'm not anti vax per say but I just cant dismiss everyone who is when I see what's happening in places like Israel one of the most vaccinated countries on earth having a huge resurgence. Vaccines are great but maybe not the be all end all. Like the rest of us I dont know.

John Wells said...

Throwing up the resurgence in Israel as an excuse not to get vaccinated is an idiot's game and a perfect example of what this blog post is all about. Don't just read the headlines - get the full story. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why And FYI - as far as "how people have turned on each other"...it is the sensible vs. the imbeciles.

JudithK said...

Hm. I'm curious about what UNKNOWN means about "body autonomy." I'm not sure I've ever heard the term.

Hachita said...

An American founding principle was the individual right to make personal choices, wise or foolish. Up to the point the choice affects others. Get drunk if you want, don’t drive.
When there’s a pestilence, since biblical times, the state acts to protect society at the expense of individual autonomy (body autonomy(?), parental rights, individual stupidity). Quarantine historically. Now we have the miracle of an extremely effective and safe vaccine (one of the best). Not perfect but vastly better than alternatives.

Unknown said...

JudithK, meant bodily autonomy sorry typo. I guess I'm not as brilliant as you. And john you proved my point,thanks.

Unknown said...

I am 31 years old and I have had covid already; giving me natural immunity. Why would I ever get a vaccine, with its associated health risks, when I already have the antibodies produced naturally?

Russ Smith said...

The hospitals are full to the brim with people who have refused to get the vaccine. Now people who are deathly ill with other ailments are being denied beds because the beds are full of covid patients. Please, just make sure you have the guts to stick with your convictions. Just keep telling yourself as you gasp for air; "I already have the antibodies produced naturally." But you won't, you'll drag yourself to the hospital and then you'll beg the doctor for the vaccine, just like all of the others. And the doctor will say; "that's not how vaccinations work, It won't help you now that you are deathly ill." Then the doctor will stick a tube down your throat and in three weeks they'll pull the tube out. And if you are real lucky, you'll still be breathing.... In the meantime, you'll have been taking up a bed that other people, who were smart enough to get the vaccine and then were unfortunate enough to have a stroke, or heart attack, or get in a bad car wreck, won't be able to get. It has LITERALLY happened thousands of times across this country. But you and those like you are too smart to fall for our devious trick to get the government's evil (_fill in B.S. story here_). Please, if you get sick and can't breath... Don't condemn some other person to death while you take a bed that they need.

J J Power said...

The question was why get vaccinated if you already have had covid.
Here's one answer.
Viruses evolve.
Just because you have had covid might not make your immune to the next variation of that virus.
This is why people who have had the flu can get the flu again.
The covid vaccines seems to protect against more than one variation of the covid virus.
By getting vaccinated your are protecting yourself and others against newer variations of the cover virus.

Unknown said...

Russ, hyperbolic much? You do realize the vast majority of people who get covid feel like crap for a few days recover and move on with their life. Like 99.97 percent of them.

Unknown said...

JJ,or we might end up like some people who went thru the spanish flu as child and still had antibodies 90 years later. None of know what covid will do or how it will react in us as individuals and to claim otherwise is intellectually dishonest.

Unknown said...

You stated earlier that one proposal to mitigate covid was to get vaccinated which is a sound proposal. It's odd that during this entire covid situation I havent heard anyone in authority stress that good health and a correct weight is a great mitigation method to covid. I love being lectured to about covid from some incredibly overweight person with a big gulp soda in one hand and a pack of cigarettes in the other,mask under their chin but a false sense of righteousness in their heart. The irony is hilarious.

Russ Smith said...

So the hospitals aren't full?
Actually I do agree that everything would be just fine if those who refuse to take the shot would not show up at the hospital and just stay home, stop taking hospital beds that could be put to better use for smarter people, and let their immune system heal them. All I'm saying is: If you refuse to take the shot, then society should refuse treatment when you get sick. You made your choice, now live (or not) with the consequences. The rest of society shouldn't have to bear the burdon of your poor choice.

Russ Smith said...

No, most of them are very smart. But some of them are idiots that will eliminate themselves from the gene pool. You have chosen to follow the latter. AND I think you have the right to do so. But if you get sick and have a hard time breathing, you should have the integrity to stick with your choice.

Unknown said...

The same could be said for people who smoke and get cancer or the number one driver for disease in the country,obesity. Where does it stop?

Brian said...

Guess who is excempt from bidens vaccine mandate? Members of congress and their staff. Surprise, surprise who would have guessed that.

Brian said...

Hey John remember when you said there would be no vaccine mandates or vaccine passes just to go about everyday business in America...Pepperidge farms remembers.