Saturday, September 18, 2021

Pandemic Saturday


 These kinds of stories of outspoken anti vaxxers dying are all over the news these days and will continue as anti vax idiots keep refusing the vaccine.  They are the new 99 percenters.  The vast majority of Americans who are getting serious cases of Covid-19 or dying are unvaccinated  The simple truth is the majority of deaths and hospitalizations from the virus continue to overwhelmingly be among unvaccinated Americans.  As of August 30, a little over 1.6 million Americans were hospitalized with Covid-19, but only 0.65 percent of them, or 10,471 patients, were fully vaccinated.

21 comments:

Unknown said...

Where do you get your charts? Not challenging just want the info. Thanks

John Wells said...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

Unknown said...

Thankyou

Tricia said...

Sadly, many healthcare workers are still unvaccinated.

Unknown said...

Wonder why?

Aeg said...

An ongoing monthly survey of more than 1.9 million U.S. Facebook users led by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh recently looked at vaccine hesitancy by occupation. It revealed a spectrum of hesitancy among health care workers corresponding to income and education, ranging from a low of 9% among pharmacists to highs of 20%-23% among nursing aides and emergency medical technicians. About 12% of registered nurses and doctors admitted to being hesitant to get a shot.
Health care workers are not monolithic," says study author Jagdish Khubchandani, professor of public health sciences at New Mexico State University.

"There's a big divide between males, doctoral degree holders, older people, and the younger low-income, low-education frontline, female health care workers. They are the most hesitant," he says. Support staff typically outnumber doctors at hospitals about 3 to 1.

"There is outreach work to be done there," says Robin Mejia, PhD, director of the Statistics and Human Rights Program at Carnegie Mellon University, who is leading the study on Facebook's survey data. "These are also high-contact professions. These are people who are seeing patients on a regular basis."
Article sited here: https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210628/huge-number-of-hospital-workers
Education, income, and probably political affiliation play a huge part in people's choice to not get vaccinated.

Brian said...

So the old fall back...their just stupid.

Michael D. Berry said...

If all this is true then the world should be rid of unvaccinated folk pretty darn soon. This is how you achieve that herd immunity we've heard tell about - thin the herd.

John Wells said...

Healthcare workers work in little cliques and are subject to misinformation just like the rest of us. Group mentality in the healthcare field is very powerful and they tend to strongly bond due to the seriousness and stress of their jobs - think peer pressure on steroids. Some groups apparently feel they are privy to inside information and because of their chosen field. In their eyes, they feel their insight into medicine is above and beyond the general public, what the media is reporting, and even CDC recommendations. Occasionally they cling to preventatives and cure-alls via anecdotal evidence within their peer groups that has very little basis in clinical science, thinking they know better because of their training in the field of medicine. Sometimes too much knowledge is a bad thing. Think about this next time you hear about healthcare workers that refuse to get vaccinated.

Brian said...

So the people who are trained and have that knowledge can have so much knowledge it makes them dumb? I'm not sure who exactly I'm supposed to trust because couldn't all those same metrics be applied to members of the media and the exalted CDC.

Wayne Kerr said...

Also, there are those folks who are not trained, do not have all the knowledge, but think they are doctors but never bothered to go to medical school. We all know some of these outstanding self declared genius medical know-it-all. They piss me off.

John Wells said...

Brian - I can't help you if you aren't smart enough to understand my argument.

Wayne Kerr said...

It’s not obvious to me that Brian is here for any help.

Brian said...

I understand your argument i just think its bunk.

Brian said...

Why don't you just say that anyone who doesn't agree with YOUR viewpoint and the people in authority that YOU agree with is stupid and get it over with.

Unknown said...

Scott Gottlieb, former FDA director in a interview over the weekend on Face the Nation said about social distancing rules.."The six feet was arbitrary in and of itself,nobody knows where it came from" These are your "experts" john.

Hachita said...

Operative term is "former". Served 2017-2019. Picked by a sociopath, confirmed by slavish Senate Republican majority. He's on board of directors of Pfizer and, to his credit but not surprise, supports the use of COVID vaccines.

Brian said...

Hachita, spin,spin,spin. Who cares who picked him and if he's problematic it doesn't bother you he's on the board of Pfizer? Its what he said thats the problem and the fact that no one from the CDC or FDA has refuted his claim. That the 6ft.social distancing that we were all dealing with for months on end was completely arbitrary, made up,no scientific reasoning,just pulled out of who knows where? Thats the problem.Things like that just add to the problem of vaccine hesitancy and general distrust.

Jeff said...

It came from outdated science. The 6' rule was proposed in 1897 by Carl Flügge, a German bacteriologist who studied droplets expelled from the mouth when speaking, coughing, or sneezing. In his research, he found droplets containing pathogens travel about 6'.

Brian said...

Jeff, I was just going by what the "expert" said was done. I looked and found the study you mentioned and yes its very outdated. Even if thats what they used thats in and of itself problematic and speaks to a larger issue. From the very beginning from when they decided to treat us like children they lied about masks saying we dont need them when actually they didn't want hording to happen because front line workers needed them. I understand their concerns but that kind of set the tone for distrust.

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